Of note here is that while Plotinus' student Porphyry names Christianity specifically in Porphyry's own works, and Plotinus is to have been a known associate of the Christian Origen, none of Plotinus' works mention Christ or Christianitywhereas Plotinus specifically addresses his target in the Enneads as the Gnostics. Billy used his magical abilities to send Sentry away, taking Osborn's most valuable team member off the board. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) (6/12/18) Marvel Puzzle Quest Help Center The Valentinian Heracleon[46] interpreted the devil as the principle of evil, that of hyle (matter). Wiccan would spend much of his time bouncing from team to team. You then who are spiritual should worship neither the creation nor the Craftsman, but the Father of Truth. He also is vitally important in Avengers: Children's Crusade (which is more or less an unofficial volume of . Transforms himself into the Scarlet Witch, Conjures up clothes in order to look like a prison guard, Gives Kid Loki a teenage body, making Loki even stronger, Undoes the Enchantress' transformation spell. Lol @ "universal" demiurge wiccan. Not even remotely. He did not do it and he will not do it, because then marvel would have to come up with actual laws for their magic and how does that apply to combat in the first place? He wiped out Mother and nothing else. Wiccan and the rest of the Young Avengers (excluding Stature) decided not to register, Hawkeye and Patriot serving with the underground resistance team known as the Secret Avengers. Wiccan was featured in the HeroClix figure game. In this act of separate creation, she gave birth to the monstrous Demiurge and, being ashamed of her deed, wrapped him in a cloud and created a throne for him within it. And how many more times to I have to tell you the visual depiction of interacting with comic panels does not matter? The Young Avengers and the Super-Skrull fled the Kree. Wiccan's force fields have become progressively stronger through his time in comics. He is a reality warper, according to Loki. Having no other choice, Wiccan and the team decide to leave New York. Generally though, I'd agree with the take that trying to compare the power of two nebulously defined reality warpers is a bit silly. The confrontation led to a battle between Kang and the Young Avengers. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. Depending on the system, they may be considered either uncreated and eternal or the product of some other entity. He should curb here. The work of Plotinus and other later Platonists in the 3rd century AD to further clarify the Demiurge is known as Neoplatonism. The demiurge is also[29] described as having a fiery nature, applying the words of Moses to him: "the Lord our God is a burning and consuming fire". Once Scarlet Witch had heard the full story of his troubles at school, she told him that next time he was threatened the best thing to do would be to stand up to Kessler. I have and we still dont know if shes even telling the truth considering theyre are factors that still arent explained that were established in Americas solo run in 2017-2019. Quispel, Gilles and Van Oort, Johannes (2008), p. 143. Wiccan hoped that revealing their existence to Wanda would help her regain her sanity and return to the Avengers. Fact is Demiurge Wiccan is actually barely universal, as we have seen him when controlled by a villain need like twenty years to destroy a single universe clearly not affecting anything across time or the like in the process. Probably Raven if she is anything like what people pretend Demiurge Wiccan is. It is in the system of Valentinus that the name Dmiurgos is used, which occurs nowhere in Irenaeus except in connection with the Valentinian system; we may reasonably conclude that it was Valentinus who adopted from Platonism the use of this word. Wiccan is capable of a variety of feats, including, but not limited to: In House of M, Wanda recreated her sons William and Thomas as the younger members of the Magnus family. Later, Billy and Teddy joined the rest of their team, and helped the Avengers save what was left of Asgard. Unwillingly, Wiccan's spell to bring back Hulkling's mother has brought back the parents of multiple heroes, including Ms. America's. The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. Before the Vision could reveal the identity of the father, a battle erupted between Kree and Skrull forces over the fate of Hulkling. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. He started out in the Young Avengers with the code name Asgardian, using only lightning powers. It's unclear whether or not he used magic to defend at all. He IS omniversal. He seems to be steadily losing ground, until Teddy appears to him. Wiccan appears as a playable character in Marvel Future Fight. However, the act only attracted unwanted press. How is it likely that shes not lying when the demiurge is still a thing everywhere else? In order to test if his feelings are genuine, the two agree to temporarily break up. The Demiurge regretted even its slight imperfection, and as he thought himself the Supreme God, he attempted to remedy this by sending a Messiah. He was angry here so there were no spell chants. During the events of Dark Reign, Billy and the other Young Avengers encounter another group of superpowered teenagers running around using the name "Young Avengers". Billy appears in the WandaVision TV series on Disney+, portrayed by Baylen Bielitz as a 5-year old and Julian Hillard as a 10-year-old. Demiurge | Rose of God Wiki | Fandom In Battle of the Atom, a future version of the X-Men was depicted operating out of the Jean Grey School. Also America: Made in the USA(2021). hansfenton123 Dice of the Skrull Kill Krew does the same and he is by all accounts not even particularly powerful. Ridiculous arrogance of the Gnostics who refuse to acknowledge the hierarchy of created gods and spirits and say that they alone are sons of God and superior to the heavens (ch. Honestly Wiccan is mostly statements. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. The ordering principle is twofold; there is a principle known as the Demiurge, and there is the Soul of the All; the appellation "Zeus" is sometimes applied to the Demiurge and sometimes to the principle conducting the universe. Not to mention the fact that he as the demiurge was drawn by America in said Made in a USA comic run before Catalina showed up. The team is quickly defeated even after the team of Initiative recruits arrive. . [28], In creating this world out of Chaos the Demiurge was unconsciously influenced for good; and the universe, to the surprise even of its Maker, became almost perfect. Billy and the Young Avengers are the first team to respond to invading Skrulls in New York. . As long as they are near their parents or the location of their parent's deaths, they will be in danger. @stahlflamme: is this demiurge( wiccan) isn't the same old demiurge? Prodigy contacts the younger members of the X-Men at the Jean Grey School, and word gets around quickly. (@ultraphoenix), https://twitter.com/spacekicker/status/1364588644032421889. Wiccan becomes the target of all enemy attacks. Demiurge. After they teleported, there was also a huge lightning bolt that staggered the Avengers. Sylvie was later kicked out. View full history. Billy's issues escalated as he grew older and entered high school where his differences became the source of endless torment and violence. Of note here is the remark concerning the second hypostasis or Creator and third hypostasis or World Soul. Magic/Reality-Warping: Billy's main power is the superhuman ability to manipulate reality at will, enabling him to tap into the universe's store of magical energies, which he inherited from his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch. William "Billy" Kaplan, also known as Wiccan, is a human mutant and magician. So am I supposed to repeat the same thing over and over again, too? This type of spellcasting has its flaws obviously. Wiccan discovered that he and the newest recruit, a youth with super speed by the name of Tommy Shepard, were identical in appearance. Wiccan (Character) - Comic Vine Also, considering the evidence from the time, Evangeliou thought the definition of the term "Gnostics" was unclear. Loki convinces Wiccan to temporarily give him some of his powers, and Wiccan agrees, seeing no other choice. The true Platonic other-worldliness, which love and venerates the material universe in all its goodness and beauty as the most perfect possible image of the intelligible, contracted at length with the false, Gnostic, other-worldliness which hates and despises the material universe and its beauties (chs. forces, the heroes of Earth went to its rescue. Level 3: While Wiccan has the Power of the Demiurge, all of his matches will destroy their row or column. The ending panel for issue 3 is, Chavez "sister" revealing more people like her and America created by replicating America's mom's experiments. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. Hippolytus claims that Simon used a similar description.[30]. With that Osborn took his leave, and left the team alone. Something to note is that Wiccan didn't know where he was teleporting to, so the spell probably just teleported him to safety. This vilification of the creator was held to be inimical to Christianity by the early fathers of the church. Wiccan's primary team is the Young Avengers, so any given volume of Young Avengers will feature him heavily. He and Teddy continue to be in a relationship. Are they confirmed it or hinted about it? During this battle, Billy revealed his ability to cast spells where he had previously limited himself to lightning projection and flight due to his inexperience. Wiccan can rewrite the rules of magic across all realities. The villain was specifically stated to be after the Demiurge abilities and to finally have them at full power when he destroyed one universe and seemingly himself along with it. Plotinus' form of Platonic idealism is to treat the Demiurge, nous, as the contemplative faculty (ergon) within man which orders the force (dynamis) into conscious reality. 588 B. SMT. During a trap laid by Iron Man and the pro-registration heroes, in which they planned to immediately take out the resistance's teleporters - Cloak & Wiccan - Wiccan was captured and sent to the N-Zone prison for his involvement with the underground Avengers. The story isnt finished yet and theres multiple things pertaining her previous origin to even consider this an actual sound recton. Demiurge Prime Marvel Universe (Earth-616) Others Others Billy Kaplan Moridun Year 20XX destroyed by Moridun (Earth-16364) Categories Categories: Disambiguation Pages Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. Realizing how hard Hulkling's life has been, Wiccan decides to do something to make it up to him, and finds an alterate universe's version of his Hulkling's mother, saving her before her death. Wiccan was created by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung. At the close of the series, Billy and Tommy are seemingly cease to exist after Wanda undoes her spell and frees Westview from her control, but the post-credits scene has Wanda hearing the boys calling to her, implying they somehow survived. Later, the Neoplatonist Iamblichus changed the role of the "One", effectively altering the role of the Demiurge as second cause or dyad, which was one of the reasons that Iamblichus and his teacher Porphyry came into conflict. At full maturity, a Demiurge is stronger than any Nephalem, including one sired by an Arch-angel/demon and can use their unique powers to kill them with ease except not when one is using its true potential. Thats a cute post though. It's also not in English like normal. For he said, 'I am God and there is no other God beside me,' for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come. [10] In this, he claimed to reveal Plato's true meaning: a doctrine he learned from Platonic tradition that did not appear outside the academy or in Plato's text. Demiurge. In the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge (/dmi.rd/) is an artisan-like figure responsible for fashioning and maintaining the physical universe. and apparently if he can't hear himself chanting the spell, it won't cast. In this future, he is the Sorcerer Supreme. [13] The performance might range from a nudge to a certain existential state or outcome, to modified every reality in existence. His appearance is patterned on that of two prominent Marvel superheroes, Thor and Scarlet Witch, both of whom are members of the Avengers. "For, in sum, a part of their doctrine comes from Plato; all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own have been picked up outside of the truth." The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One ( , 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. The New Avengers wasn't suggesting it was really bad if that is the case. Youre really trying to use a brand new scan that hasnt been explained in a still unfinished story. While patterning himself after Thor in the guise of Asgardian, Billy limited himself entirely to flight and lightning based spells. During this time, Billy attempted to tell his parents that he was a superhero, only to accidentally come out to them. Soncesvit - Bulawa (Aerofoil Remix) 25:59 The Faino - Arkan The absurdities of the Gnostic doctrine of the fall of "Wisdom" (Sophia) and of the generation and activities of the Demiurge, maker of the visible universe (chs. Demiurge. But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths. They were interrupted by a troupe of Kree soldiers who revealed Hulkling to be half-Kree as well and the son of their greatest warrior, Captain Marvel. As the Demiurge, Wiccan completely eradicated Mother and every threat she had created in Young Avengers #13 by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie. This is the one in Future State right? Plotinus, along with his teacher Ammonius Saccas, was the founder of Neoplatonism. When he does, multiple fights break out between the various groups trying to capture the Scarlet Witch. A lot of comic books inspired WandaVision, including House Of M and the 1985 The Vision And The Scarlet Witch limited series (by writer Steve Englehart and artist Richard Howell.) on 01/09/22 The senseless jargon of the Gnostics, their plagiarism from and perversion of Plato, and their insolent arrogance (ch. The Young Avengers later encountered both Kate Bishop and the daughter of the late Ant Man (Scott Lang), Cassie Lang. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) 4-Star Rarity (Legendary) Heroes, Young Avengers, Team Cap. The Runaways rebuked their offer, but joined together when Karolina Dean, the Skrull Xavin, Hulkling and Wiccan were captured by agents of a secret alien-observation base called The Cube. William Kaplan (Earth-616) | Marvel Database | Fandom He has the power to rewrite and shape reality to his will. He avoided Kessler at all costs until one day he saw Kessler had found a new victim. He was supposed to have been safely locked away, guarded by the Avengers, but when a recently inverted group of Avengers (Sam Wilson, Scarlet Witch, Luke Cage, Wasp, Medusa, and Thor) went to check on him, they found that he'd escaped. THE STORY ISNT FINISHED as I keep saying. After three months in exile, Wiccan and the team are approached by the former X-Man and mutant Prodigy, who tells them that Speed, Wiccan's twin brother, was kidnapped by a mysterious figure wearing a Patriot uniform. Instead, the Young Avengers continued to function as a team, now using Kate Bishop's resources to support them. While still trying to decide how to continue their activities while staying under the radar of the New Avengers, Hulkling was kidnapped by the Super-Skrull. Turner, "Gnosticism and Platonism", in Wallis & Bregman. In refuting the beliefs of the gnostics, Irenaeus stated that "Plato is proved to be more religious than these men, for he allowed that the same God was both just and good, having power over all things, and himself executing judgment. 2022. , ! I don't know why people saying he is multiversel, etc. The Young Avengers managed to escape to Billy's household. Unkindness has fewer feats and it took her a whole longer to destroy the multiverse. In school, he met a tremendous amount of hate and fear because he was different. According to some strains of Gnosticism, the demiurge is malevolent, as it is linked to the material world. Level 2: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 8 AP in all colors. William "Billy" Kaplan, Wiccan. William was believed to be Malachi, who attacked the Avengers during the Crossing story arc. It was here that Billy revealed to Teddy that Norse myths have always had a special meaning for him because his father used to read them to him at night. Unkindness has fewer feats and it took her a whole longer to destroy the multiverse. In this one-shot about the final adventure of the Avengers, Billy Maximoff chose to be a villain, calling himself the Grim Reaper. @demiurgekaplan: the entirety of multiversal demi urges feats come from statements about creating the utopia parallel. John Kessler was Billy's main nemesis and after receiving a beating that left him sore and bloody, Billy went to his favorite place to calm down -The Avengers Mansion. Wiccan | Character Level Wiki | Fandom The Young Avengers are seen fighting a terrorist group called the Sons if the Serpent. The Wiccan and Hulkling of Earth-616 didn't approve of this, and later Wiccan and Hulkling from Earth-721 was sent home. When Loki teleports away, seemingly abandoning the team, Wiccan sees no choice but to kill himself in order to end his spell, but is saved by Loki's return. 13:29 CJ Mars - K.D.D. 3. That night, however, the woman attacks Wiccan's parents. @j2111: Yeah, I've seen all that before. After looking into it, Sam Wilson found that someone with Avengers membership and passcodes had helped the Skull escape. Jeff Kaplan (father) Rebecca Kaplan (mother) two unnamed younger brothers Theodore Altman (fianc) Wiccan has a wide range of superhuman powers derived from an unconfirmed source. Wiccan can augment his strength through magic. However, strange things begin to occur with the children, who rapidly age from infancy to school age through unknown means. The advice from Pandemonium helped Billy, who is sated for now. 07:17 Serge Udalin - Witch. The Super-Skrull revealed to Teddy that he was "Dorrek VIII" the rightful heir to the Skrull Empire. Shocked and afraid at what he had done, Billy ran back to the Avengers Mansion to talk with the Scarlet Witch but she was nowhere to be found. These six, in turn, create another twelve angels "with each one receiving a portion in the heavens". The two work out their problems, and their love is able to save the universe. 257, 382). The Young Avengers decide to give the newbies a chance, and announce that they will host try-outs, where each Lite member will be teamed up with one or more Young Avengers. The main character refers to the Demiurge as the entity who "fashioned and shaped" the material world. Christos Evangeliou has contended[52] that Plotinus' opponents might be better described as simply "Christian Gnostics", arguing that several of Plotinus' criticisms are as applicable to orthodox Christian doctrine as well. @j2111: It's a twitter post by Kieron Gillen look it up yourself. Until that happens youre argument isnt gonna work its just loud at the point. Unkindness wins. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The Latin translation, confirmed by Hippolytus of Rome,[24] makes Irenaeus state that according to Cerinthus (who shows Ebionite influence), creation was made by a power quite separate from the Supreme God and ignorant of him. Iron Lad had found Teddy Altman (Hulkling), Elijah Bradley (Patriot) and now Billy Kaplan (as "Asgardian") who all three agreed to help him, despite their lack of experience. He has received some form of training from Loki during his time in the Young Avengers, so he may take less time to cast his spells and have better control. When his powers first manifested, he nearly killed someone. Under the name of Nebro (rebel), Yaldabaoth is called an angel in the apocryphal Gospel of Judas. Tanks eye beams from Sentry, and comes out unscathed. He briefly achieves this form, and is able to view the past, present and future, as well as freely alter the universe. Read the scan I posted above. Several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation occurs in an unconscious semblance of the divine model, and thus is fundamentally flawed, or else is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. And viewing his dimension in comic book format in order to banish mother. The Demiurge, isolated, did not behold his mother, nor anyone else, and concluded that only he existed, ignorant of the superior levels of reality. Refutation of objections from the inequalities and injustices of human life (ch. Sylvie revealed to them that she was not actually from Asgard, but that she woke up one morning with powers. Billy Kaplan on Tumblr - #wiccan You just said yourself the universe he destroyed was fixed by time travel, so not beyond time or reality or time travel would not affect it. It's not fair. In the theoretic of Plotinus, nous produces nature through intellectual mediation, thus the intellectualizing gods are followed by a triad of psychic gods. The Demiurge of Neoplatonism is the Nous (mind of God), and is one of the three ordering principles: Before Numenius of Apamea and Plotinus' Enneads, no Platonic works ontologically clarified the Demiurge from the allegory in Plato's Timaeus. It was during this time that Iron Lad's future self, Kang the Conqueror arrived to bring Iron Lad back to the future and convince him to accept his destiny. Not even remotely correct. [49] In the ninth tractate of the second of his Enneads, Plotinus criticizes his opponents for their appropriation of ideas from Plato: From Plato come their punishments, their rivers of the underworld and the changing from body to body; as for the plurality they assert in the Intellectual Realmthe Authentic Existent, the Intellectual-Principle, the Second Creator and the Soulall this is taken over from the Timaeus. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll With a thought, he puts a group of bad guys in a coma. The Demiurge belongs to the second kind, as he was the offspring of a union of Achamoth with matter. Like many other heroes, Wiccan and the Young Avengers were granted amnesty following the conclusion of Civil War. Billy took to her so well that, later, at a Young Avengers meeting, he vouched for Sylvie. Billy Kaplan is a Young Avenger and later found out that he and Speed are the Scarlet Witch's formerly dead twin sons. Loki literally says "you're gonna rewrite the laws of magic across all realities". The Ophites held that he and his demons constantly oppose and thwart the human race, as it was on their account the devil was cast down into this world. 2, it is revealed by Loki that Wiccan is destined to ascend to a god-like reality warper who will rewrite the rules of magic known as the Demiurge. Teleports an entire prisoner van to a secure SHIELD location. Thus the real Hulkling (disguised as the Super-Skrull) was able to stay on Earth. I want to know about that, Who would win between this wiccan and Mr Mxyzptlk cause raven is more powerful than him and Perpetua. As the full-powered Demiurge, he casually removes Mother from existence, who is an extremely powerful matter manipulator, and removes everyone from the pocket dimension into the main universe. The true believer in Christ entered into God's kingdom, the unbeliever remained forever the slave of the Demiurge.[28]. [34], The angelic name "Ariel" (Hebrew: 'the lion of God')[35] has also been used to refer to the Demiurge and is called his "perfect" name;[36] in some Gnostic lore, Ariel has been called an ancient or original name for Ialdabaoth. I get how powerful wiccan is i really do but LMAO WHAT THE HELL IS HOMEBOI DOING TO THE UNKINDNESS, @yungbaby: Shes the ultimate villain of the DC multiverse, it happened during the future state event. Wiccan and the others were eventually rescued by their teammates and continued avoiding registration. Meaning as he stands now his best feat is destroying a universe in 20 years despite being bloodlusted. He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. He is a reality warper, according to Loki. The writers confirmed Raven's level of power on Twitter when I asked them! You will notice in the following scans that it takes him around 2-3 chants for the spell to fully activate. With the combined focus of Magneto and Speed, he was able to locate the Scarlet Witch, who was presumably dead. 9). You can continue to delude yourself Wiccan is universal let alone multiversal. As the Demiurge, Wiccan has the power to shape reality to his will. In the Apocryphon of John, Yaldabaoth is also known as both Sakla and Samael. Clown move to be jumping the gun so quickly. Wiccan continued as a member of the Young Avengers (now including Tommy as "Speed") until the events of Civil War and the Superhero Registration Act forced the team to go underground as part of Captain America's anti-registration team of superheroes. Knocks out multiple people simultaneously, Manipulates water to to knock away a Skrull. The Super-Skrull killed Hulkling's foster mother and captured Hulkling to his ship to take him back to the Skrull Empire. Plotinus criticizes his opponents for "all the novelties through which they seek to establish a philosophy of their own" which, he declares, "have been picked up outside of the truth";[50] they attempt to conceal rather than admit their indebtedness to ancient philosophy, which they have corrupted by their extraneous and misguided embellishments. Back at the Avengers Mansion, Billy was eager to begin Sylvie's training, but she seemed more interested in getting closer to Billy, whom she appeared to be attracted to, causing Billy a degree of discomfort. This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for: Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other His analysis showed the unattested Aramaic term to have been fabulated and attested only in a single corrupted text from 1859, with its claimed translation having been transposed from an the reading of an earlier etymology whose explanation seemingly equated 'darkness' and 'chaos' when translating an unattested supposed plural form of Hebrew: , romanized:bhu. Iron Lad had used a system he found in the remains of the Vision which helped locate alternative members for the Avengers for the next generation. All realities mean omniverse. No she's above Hectate the goddesses of magic in the multiverse . Armstrong alluding to Gnosticism being a Hellenic philosophical heresy of sorts, which later engaged Christianity and Neoplatonism.[53][54]. Whereas Plato's Demiurge is good wishing good on his creation, Gnosticism contends that the Demiurge is not only the originator of evil but is evil as well. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. She and Cassie also convinced Billy to change his alias from "Asgardian" to "Wiccan" in acknowledgment of his new powers (and due to "Asgardian" being exploitable by the media in relation to Billy's sexuality and relationship with Hulkling). A bit desperate too. Iron Lad explained he needed help protecting himself from his future self, called Kang. she absorbed the realms of nightmare and dream . In the various branches of the Neoplatonic school (third century onwards), the demiurge is the fashioner of the real, perceptible world after the model of the Ideas, but (in most Neoplatonic systems) is still not itself "the One". Do you read what you are writing? Realizing that the Scarlet Witch must be a prisoner of Doctor Doom, Billy sneaks into Latveria on his own to find her. The false other-worldliness of the Gnostics leads to immorality (ch. 9). The wizard's power is so powerful it sent Adam through the multiverse and disrupted the omniverse, so this is another nice feat for the Unkindness." My guyThat scan literally from said comic book run America:Made in the USA (2021) provided nothing of the sort to prove that the utopian parallel was recton at least not yet. Demiurge Wiccan has more impressive feats. Wiccan (Billy Kaplan) | Marvel Puzzle Quest Wiki | Fandom The etymology of the name Yaldabaoth has been subject to many speculative theories. Billy and the other Young Avengers were then confronted by Iron Man, Captain America, and Jessica Jones who disapproved of their unsanctioned vigilantism. 2 yr. ago. Their intent was to kill the Skull to prevent the X-Men (under the leadership of an inverted Storm and Genesis, now the Apocalypse) from taking him.

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